There's your problem - you are using a shared onboard video card.

With the graphic requirements of EVE I am surprised the game runs at all.

Did you do anything like change graphics drivers? or are you still running as you were before without any changes to your drivers?

Actually with the most recent driver, I just got the black screen problem where it doesnt return, luckily at the time I was running log server, so I will submit a new bug report... At the very end of it is lots and lots of red error messages... hopefully sheds some light on the problem.

The report ID is 123290.

Well, if you haven't already, keep posting bug reports, and taking any data (and if you are someone with some idea of how to interpret the log server data, then keep posting any possible leads). Anyway, the dev team prolly won't deal with it till Monday, hopefully they will get to the bottom of it before Christmas break (Anyone want to bet ISK as to whether that will happen?)

So I've been googling for workarounds, and I have tried most of the reasonable suggestions that people who also experienced this issue have said, which mostly include editing registries having to do with TDR, which stands for Timeout Detection and Recovery. Supposedly Windows 7 and vista have this "feature" where if your system seems to "lag" or abruptly change framerate it causes a sudden shutdown and restart of the graphics driver, hence the black flicker. Also, in terms of the "black screen of death" there is a set number of times within a period of time that if this happens, the driver doesnt recover and instead waits an even longer time to restart. Now, in Vista there is a registry called "TdrDelay" that the default is "2" which means after 2 seconds of supposed "lag" it will do the reset. However, in Windows 7 they have gotten rid of or replaced with registry key with something entirely different. I tried adding the registry key as was suggested here:

http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/51028-help-me-configure-registry-correctly-solve-tdr-issue.html

but that did not seem to solve the problem in Eve. Anyway, if anyone wants to try those steps feel free, like I said, being restricted to "high sec" in order to safeguard from computer problems really is boring...

Hey so you were actually able to disable TDR? are you running windows 7? how did you do it, cause I added teh D_Word TdrDelay and set it to 0 and I still got the same black screen flicker, so I didn't think it did much of anything. In all likelyhood I did it wrong anyway.

Oh my computer make and model is Toshiba Satelite A505 S6005

After reading this forum and doing some research on my own, I have been able to fix my graphics problem of when undocking/docking and jumping thru gates. i am running an acer aspire 7741z. what i did was the following

go to control panel
went to the intel graphics and media
clicked on the 3D tab
set it to custom settings
went to the vertex processing and selected the enable software processing.
clicked apply and the started eve.

after doing all of that i have not had ANY problems with eve blanking out or crashing.

I hope this helped. I will see if i can figure out the same steps for other computer as well.

If you don't mind me asking, what are your other 3D settings? Also, would one have to restart their computer for any changes to take effect?

Same problem here. Resubbed today after a year break to get this flickering screen, often crashing the computer after jumps and session changes. Can i have my money back please? The game as is is unplayable. Thanks.

And yes, I am also using Intel I3 processor with dual graphic cards in my laptop (Intel HD onboard card for work and stuff plus Nvidia card for games). The problem seems to be with I3 processor and dual graphic card setups like my laptop has I think. Eve graphic settings menu shows that its using Intel card, although I have manually set it up so that when Eve starts computer should automatically switch to Nvidia card. Laptop model is Asus U30J. MB version U30JC.

may i ask what type of computer your using?

So unfortunately, Eve's self updater is SO advanced (yes sarcasm) that it automatically updates to Crucible 1.0.3 even if you are running off of Incarna, so there is no way I can see to get Eve to start up with Crucible 1.0.0 where the problem had initially been fixed so I could run a side by side log server analysis of the login screen between both versions.

I guess we'll have to leave it up to the pros... unless anyone else has any good ideas...

Hmm, could this hringur.dds be the problem? it says unsupported format... does anyone know, or am I just shooting in the dark here? I checked some of my log server reports from jumping that I took previously, and the hringur.dds is always there and is always in an unsupported format... whatever that means. Hopefully the devs see this and know what it is.

Can you run logserver from both builds and do a diff on the output. Could be interesting.

I realy hope they are still working on this issue, its been a while since we have heard anything from them...

I tried every fix in the book I found on the forums.... then a corp mate pointed this out to me... It worked 100%.

I think the combination is the older driver and the fix others have suggested.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1568813

Not only does it work, I've undocked like 100 times just to celebrate, and not 1 issue... very fast undock times too.

it's in the linked post... it depends on which version of windows you have, but just set it to show 50.... then Ctrl f the "8.15.10.2413" and look for the correct version... I think there were 2 or 3 versions for different windows.

My computer seems to be running incredibly cooler too as a result of this change.

So here is what I found. Going through drivers, from oldest to latest, I found that literally the oldest driver actually works. But, and this is huge hairy butt, it runs like absolute garbage. I mean I might as well be back to the newer version where at least the graphics look like something from this era and not the original duke nukem.

To get to that version is just idiotic also, and so is their versioning system. You get to the download center, go through the menus and if you are on windows 7 64-bit, there are 9 total drivers. The one you want is this.



The official version, listed in the version column is the first one, the 15.16.5.64.2021, and when you click on it you have two more options; you can get the one from 2009, or the one from 2010. The one from 2009 is the only one that works, every other driver does not work. Here's the most fabulously screwed up part, the update to it, from 2010, runs the graphics beautifully with everything turned on and turned to high, or everything turned off and turned to low, doesn't matter, runs beautiful, and smooth either way for me, but... you can't undock or jump systems without the damned screen blanking.

So if you have a high-end system and are used to high-end graphics, run from EVE as fast as you can, you will never get EVE playing functionally again at this rate. If you on the other hand have a crappy system anyway with a 1.33 ghz i5 with two cores, and only 2 gigs of ram, you won't notice a difference. It'll play choppy as all hell, and look blocky and blobby, like I'm sure you're already used to anyway.

So... CCP, ball is in your court.

I will try my gf's laptop as well, which is same comp dell n5010, but the processor is an i5 at 4 cores with 2.66 ghz instead of 2.8, and only 8 gigs of ram, instead of 16, but I don't expect there to be a difference. If I don't post a reply stating so, then there was no difference.

EDIT: UPDATE: No difference on the other laptop. Also, I can't overstate how bad the graphics are in the 2009 version of the driver. It makes me want to rip out my skeleton; throw it through my window and go running down the street with my bones clacking like mad. It is just terrible.

Well I've tried all of the work arounds listed here in the forums and they don't work for me...

IMO; I don't think it's an Intel issue... It's a CCP issue...

If I join a game and it works fine, and the developers issue an upgrade, and then it doesn't work any longer... it's not the hardware's fault... It's the game designers...

CCP has done this before... I like EVE... I played it before for almost 3 years... Got bored went to some other games... Decided to come back and see what had changed...

It's a good game, with lots of good players... But at this point I will not be renewing my subscription...

You know you can play Eve-Online for free right? buy an ingame Plex. it takes about 5-10 hrs of play to get a month free doing incursions.

Just to anyone that is skeptical reading this, I rolled back my drivers linked in a earlier post. Worked fine, only problem, in game perfermance is a little worst.

But if you are tired of the graphics crashes I suggest doing rolling them drivers back.

Im using a core i3 w/ Intel(R) HD Graphics (laptop)

EDIT:

I've reverted back to the latest drivers. The older drivers impacted other games far more than I would have liked. :(
CS:S - Unplayable
WoW - Looks more terrible than usual (don't know how thats possible)
League of Legends - 13 fps....

So ya, reverting back ASAP.

Can't we just get a fix :(

Hinkers Doodles and Jimi Crackcorn, have you both read my last post about connecting to Singularity to see of our changes have resolved the issue for you. I would suggest you do this as other players are finding their issues resolved or alleviated.